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Mazzie

Registered: March 30, 2009
Posts: 325
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Hi has anyone had a problem with mild irritating their bladder?  I started drinking hot milk with honey or sugar and it seems to irritate and cause the flakes in my irine.  Is this possible?  I am trying to eliminate everyhting else and apart from organic digestives and flapjackes made with butter oats and syrup thats all I ate before the pain and irritation 2 days running but I had them with hot milk.  Does hot milk turn acidic or something?  Mazzie x

Sonia

Registered: Oct 25, 2006
Posts: 275
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My uro said the first time I saw him that some of his patients can't tolerate dairy products or wheat.
Honey has me in and out of the loo like a yoyo.
S

Donna_W

Registered: Feb 10, 2007
Posts: 100
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That's weird, hot milk and honey is one of the few things I can drink. When I'm in flare it actually helps calm it down.
Sara

Registered: Aug 4, 2008
Posts: 232
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We are all so different.  I have found over my 8 years of IC that milk and milk products and wheat are pretty much a no, no for me.  You just have to find these things out through trial and error.  I do drink hot water with honey in though and this doesn't seem to bother me too much.

Sara
kty

Registered: Dec 3, 2009
Posts: 3
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Hi
I'm not quite sure if i've ic as I've not been diagnosed by a specialist but self-diagnosed from looking at info on different sites.
Never actually been on an internet forum either so not sure what I'm doing.
As far as milk's concerned I've just had a massive hot mug of it so I hope it's ok. I now I'm fine with cold milk though.

katie

Kerry

Registered: Oct 20, 2004
Posts: 860
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've never heard of it and I can drink up to 2 pints of milk a day, I love the white stuff!. I have heard some patients struggle with dairy food so best asking your GP or stopping drinking it for a few days and see if you symptoms decrease xx

hellofromfio

Registered: March 2, 2009
Posts: 148
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Hi All

Milk and milky products affect my stomach giving me terrible cramps, so I avoid anyway - they never hurt my bladder, but we are all different.  Maybe you have an intolerance to milk and so your bladder flares?

Lve Fio
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RiaChantler

Registered: Nov 21, 2009
Posts: 13
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Milk contains lactose so that will convert to yeast which will damage the bladder. Honey will also damage your bladder and as for sugar well that's the icing on the cake. If you want something sweet, try rice milk as it is non harmful and a wonderful product which they do in sainsburys is agave nectar. It's in the free from bit and is safe even for diabetics as it doesn't attack the body or break down like sugar does.

merryc

Registered: Aug 17, 2009
Posts: 86
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just to be clear here - Milk may or may not affect people depending on their lactose tolerance but lactose will never convert to yeast because yeast is an organism and lactose is a chemical found naturally in milk. It is great to give help and advice but it should have some basis in reality....
best wishes to all.
Donna_W

Registered: Feb 10, 2007
Posts: 100
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Update on the milk situation:

I've always been bad after having Cystistat, and just always expected it. For me it's like a day long flare. I'm always fine the next day. However as soon as I get in after the treatment, the first thing I do is have a mug of hot milk and honey. )I only lived 10 min walk away from hospital.)

When I moved to north Hampshire two months ago, and had to get the train back down to Southampton for Cystistat, I was dreading the journey home, but I wasn't too bad. Still got tired but didn't have nearly the same amount of pain as usual. So I think I've found the culprit - hot milk!

I still have it at other times, but now only drink water after my treatment and have been much better.
Eva

Registered: Oct 17, 2008
Posts: 247
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Lactose is milk sugar so it will feed yeast which can affect the bladder - if yeast overgrowth is a problem.  If yeast is in the body at a normal level then it will be fine - unless there is lactose intolerance in which case avoid dairy altogether and use dairy substitutes like rice milk or almond milk (I make this at home - its lovely and very nutritious, just need almonds and water - blitz and then sieve).

Agave will also feed yeast as its still a sugar. There are different opinions on whether it is healthy or not, same as with honey.


merryc

Registered: Aug 17, 2009
Posts: 86
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thank you for the explanation about the milk / yeast issue.

Eva

Registered: Oct 17, 2008
Posts: 247
Reply with quote  #13 
Forgot to mention goat's milk as an alternative. Can get it in Tescos etc, also goat's yoghurt and cheese - slightly less lactose and the fats/protein are more easily digested: 

"Fat globules in goats’ milk are generally smaller than those in cows’ milk, so our digestive enzymes can complete their breakdown more rapidly. The proteins also form a softer curd in the stomach which helps with digestion. That’s why goats’ milk is an ideal food for children, the elderly, those with digestive difficulties and people recuperating from illness."

 

tigfox

Registered: Sept 17, 2008
Posts: 180
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Hi,
I cannot tolerate milk, even goats milk, its really annoying! I also can have bread, I`m really struggling for what to eat for breakfast, any suggestions?
Thanks,
Tig
Carole48

Registered: May 12, 2009
Posts: 118
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I'm on Matia Brizman's list 1 diet which is very restricted. 

For breakfast I tend to have scambled egg (no milk) and rice cakes and some raw vegetables which i eat whilst preparing my packed lunch of meat, salad and raw veg.

I found it hard at first but you get used to it.

Some people who can't tolerate standard bread can tolerate bread made with white spelt flour which is much milder.  Unless of course its the gluten you are alergic to.
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